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The Trouble with Ayahuasca

I asked Almine about the supposed healing properties of Ayahuasca, and how it is that she does not share this view. She explains:

It is a very bad idea for enlightened masters to do Ayahuasca. I have frequently said that it is one of the four warrior plants that conquer the soul. Here’s why:

  • It shifts the assemblage point and the assemblage point determines your level of consciousness. It has the potential of shifting you to a much lower level of consciousness.
  • It is addictive, and when no longer available, its cravings can create other addictions to take its place.
  • It opens doorways to other dimensions you have no control over. There are many realms of very hostile and destructive beings that could then access you.

Please do not take such a risk with your most precious possession: your hard-earned level of enlightenment.

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Posted by Rogier on October 28, 2015 16 Comments

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  1. Rain says

    October 31, 2015 at 12:58 PM

    In the 60’s, I experimented with a lot of different things. In the 70’s, I had a medicine teacher who told me that any place you can go with these plants- any “heightened awareness” or “peak experience”, you can go yourself without them. They are intended only to be the doorways to show you that these realms exist. This is true and much, much more. And you have control of the experience. We are going far beyond where any of these plants can go, in this work.

    The movement of the assemblage point is often to a baser level. Great chaos. Further it is unstable even if to a more expanded awareness of hidden realms and the fabric of existence. You can’t stay there, because you really haven’t earned it. Even without a chemical addiction, you are likely to want to take the plant again to achieve the experience. You’re really not learning anything.

    The environment you take it is matters. The consciousness of the person who is leading. Some people are very well trained, they have been in studies since children and taken through many nuances of what the plant can do. Some are very egoistic and have their own agendas. And you are just open to them in this state. And of everyone else who is there as well. For healing, in the best of hands, since the operation of the plants is to work by overtaking the mind of man, it may work, but doesn’t address the core issues that created the situation in the first place. We have powerful tools like the Hakulit that do.

    I asked Almine once in class about how these plants could be used to benefit us, since they are part of creation and put here for a reason. And she told us that both the male and the female parts of the plant have to be used. Many of you know of the changes in the medical uses of cannabis (far from the Reefer Madness propaganda of the 50’s), in which CBD’s and other attributes of the plant are the main components of benefit. These components either do not have the ‘trippy’ effect or have a mild pleasant feeling. They are not smoked- they are vaporized to remove most of the THC which has the high or given in tinctures- in drops. There is in fact a mixture of the masculine and feminine components of the plant within them- and there is now very refined charts put out by the medical and scientific communities which look very much like atomic chemistry charts of which specific kind of cannabis contains the components for a specific ailment – for example: Charlotte’s Web tincture in drops is used for epilepsy and is considered gentle and highly effective. It is an alternative to chemical concoctions for the disease that are extremely dangerous and highly addictive.

    How was the plant raised? These plants are very sensitive to the environment, the attitudes of those who grew or gathered them. With CBD use there are actually labs that test for the purity of the plants – both that they have the components in the ratios that are required and that they have no pesticides or heavy metals in them. But just because it is in a bottle it doesn’t mean it was tested. You have to read the label. Otherwise, there is a lot of very harmful things that it could be exposed to. If you’ve used a lot of these plants you need to do some detoxing and the Chronic and Systemic Disease Belvaspata is very good for this.

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  2. Liba says

    October 29, 2015 at 3:35 PM

    Thank you so much for that guidance, it is interesting that I always was against it, I looked at it as possession of your body that controls you inside and out.
    Yes, it is very bad, but shamans of Peri
    Practicing this with the new comers.
    Love
    Love
    Love

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  3. andy says

    October 29, 2015 at 1:08 PM

    would it be possible to have a more detailed explanation and even advice for people who have already taken part in alot of ayahausca ceremonies. it would be very much appreciated.

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    • Rogier says

      October 29, 2015 at 1:33 PM

      Will ask

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    • Rogier says

      October 31, 2015 at 10:02 AM

      Andy, Almine answers

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  4. Teena says

    October 29, 2015 at 7:21 AM

    Thank you Rogier for this information. Call it synchronicity as yesterday, I just viewed a film by Sacred Science where the medicine man gave 8 people/patients this powerful plant. However, I was not convinced that it was a good thing. Almine confirms that it is not a safe plant to use.

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  5. alan rhyason says

    October 29, 2015 at 7:03 AM

    Hi, thank you for your thoughts on ayahuasca. However I say this, what about pure intention? Setting a pure intention before a ceremony delivers results based on that. I feel the comment, “There are many realms of very hostile and destructive beings that could then access you. ” is fear mongering. Have we not all been taught that our life is based on intention?

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    • Rogier says

      October 31, 2015 at 9:03 AM

      Alan, Almine responds here

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  6. Kevin says

    October 29, 2015 at 2:34 AM

    What are the other 3 warrior plants that conquer the soul?

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    • Anna says

      October 29, 2015 at 2:31 PM

      Tobacco, garlic, marijuana the other 3… here is the link Almine writes about Shamanic plants… http://www.spiritualjourneys.com/article/shamanic-plant-magic/

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      • maria arvanitidis says

        October 29, 2015 at 9:23 PM

        GARLIC OMG now that is the only
        one I do take and have noticed the past 6 months not as much interesting and would like some more information could you please about why Garlic is not good for us
        LPGST

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        • maria arvanitidis says

          October 29, 2015 at 9:32 PM

          I looked up your thread funny that after I typed this up and sent it I saw the blue thread and got linked on to the site
          bang on instantly answered
          thank you

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  7. Andy says

    October 29, 2015 at 12:20 AM

    I took ayahausca 100,s times with the santa daime people is there anything I need to do because of ?

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  8. sue b says

    October 28, 2015 at 11:52 PM

    Great explanation to a timely warning. Thanks Rogier.

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  9. Denise says

    October 28, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    Hi Rogier….
    In Almine’s teachings, she sometimes refers to the fact that we must “trust and surrender to the benevolence of Life”…how does this relate to understanding “hostile beings in other dimensions”

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    • Rogier says

      October 28, 2015 at 11:45 PM

      Denise… According to Almine, these beings serve to embody chaos that would otherwise spill into our realm. This is not “evil”. The beings serve a useful purpose, but that doesn’t mean you should be connecting with them.

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